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The Java space is not really unique in this situation, as we contribute our fair share to the computing buzzword thesaurus. So it's not really surprising when someone trips up using the wrong word every so often. They can be forgiven. However, this month I've been researching one particular boo-boo that Mr. Larry Ellison made in his quarterly earnings press conference.

Oracle has always had a reputation of being a rather bold and some would say bullish company. But their latest claim takes them to new heights. One question posed to Larry was about the performance of Java and whether or not Oracle would be working more closely with BEA and their JRockit virtual machine. Larry responded with, "JRockit isn't really BEA's but Intel's...and will be part of Oracle's app server."

Wait a minute, doesn't BEA own JRockit? I am sure they did. Oh well, maybe I have it wrong; it wouldn't be the first time. I pinged an e-mail over to BEA for confirmation; they did indeed confirm that JRockit was 100% BEA owned. BEA responded with, "[We] can assure you that JRockit is owned by BEA." JRockit, originally developed by Appeal Virtual Machines, was acquired by BEA in early 2002. Maybe it was just a one-off slip from Larry.

But Larry continues the distancing of JRockit from BEA: "BEA has no proprietary rights to that whatsoever," citing Intel as the true owners of JRockit. Oh, maybe this wasn't a slip, but a clever subterfuge. Larry continues to reinforce Intel's ownership, "...JRockit technology that we have complete access to, and we have had a meeting with Intel to confirm that."

BEA and Intel have indeed pooled their product engineering efforts to ensure the best possible combination of BEA's JRockit technology on Intel processors, but as far as BEA is concerned, Oracle has not entered into any relationship with them for a similar optimization effort.

Did Larry get it wrong? He was assuring the original person who asked the question that Oracle9iAS would be using the latest VM technology from JRockit to ensure it was the fastest application server on the market.

I asked Oracle to comment on this with a series of questions. In true politician style, 50% of the answers I got back are definitely not in response to any of my questions. The other answers from their VP of app server marketing appeared to contradict what Larry was saying in his press conference, with quotes such as "...Oracle's internal tests show that JRockit has performance and stability issues when compared with the currently available JDK 1.4.1 solution from Sun." If this really is the case, shouldn't someone tell Larry that they aren't planning on using JRockit anymore? I am sure BEA will be interested in seeing the tests Oracle has conducted to see if this really is a problem, and I would urge Oracle to share any data they have that might help BEA address any issues. Maybe there's a configuration problem that BEA could assist with.

I hope Oracle gets its message straight sooner rather than later, because I feel it's important to the Java community not to introduce any confusion. It is good validation for us as an industry and with such heavyweights as Oracle and IBM, I feel very confident that Java is here to stay no matter what nonsense is being propagated from the Seattle operating system company.

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I knew this was going to happen at some time: the moment when I would have to whip out my hanky and wave goodbye to a dear friend and wish him all the best. Fortunately that time hasn't come yet. Although that Jason Briggs boy is leaving the post of J2ME editor, he'll be contributing every so often, so we haven't lost his wit and charm completely! Yup, his life is about to get a lot more complicated with the arrival of a brand new Briggs v0.1. So on behalf of the JDJ crew, we wish him all the best.

About Alan Williamson
Alan Williamson is widely recognized as an early expert on Cloud Computing, he is Co-Founder of aw2.0 Ltd, a software company specializing in deploying software solutions within Cloud networks. Alan is a Sun Java Champion and creator of OpenBlueDragon (an open source Java CFML runtime engine). With many books, articles and speaking engagements under his belt, Alan likes to talk passionately about what can be done TODAY and not get caught up in the marketing hype of TOMORROW. Follow his blog, http://alan.blog-city.com/ or e-mail him at cloud(at)alanwilliamson.org.

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you should care because the BEA JRockit JVM offers the best SPECjbb2000 numbers on the planet. It is not optimized for client applications but for multi-threaded server applications.

The Sun JRE for Intel is fast enough for the vast majority of users and only continues to get better. I do not see very many shops changing to JRockit...

I talked to the JRockit development team at the BEA eworld conference about this very matter, and they said that they are 100% owned by BEA. Their business cards say "BEA Systems", not JRockit.

That's what I heard right from the horse's mouth.

ok, let setup some online forum and let vote on who really owns jrockit ???

I own it, and so does my wife ...

Did anyone ask Intel whether they own JRockit? Perhaps both companies are claiming it. That would make an even more interesting story.


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john archer wrote: you should care because the BEA JRockit JVM offers the best SPECjbb2000 numbers on the planet. It is not optimized for client applications but for multi-threaded server applications.
James McGovern wrote: The Sun JRE for Intel is fast enough for the vast majority of users and only continues to get better. I do not see very many shops changing to JRockit...
ghunter wrote: I talked to the JRockit development team at the BEA eworld conference about this very matter, and they said that they are 100% owned by BEA. Their business cards say "BEA Systems", not JRockit. That's what I heard right from the horse's mouth.
ginos wrote: ok, let setup some online forum and let vote on who really owns jrockit ???
Dave wrote: I own it, and so does my wife ...
mARK wrote: Did anyone ask Intel whether they own JRockit? Perhaps both companies are claiming it. That would make an even more interesting story.
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