Richard Davies wrote: The UK has a good crop of technology pioneers in cloud computing - for example ElasticHosts, FlexiScale, Flexiant, OnApp - and also some strong government initiatives such as G-Cloud.
We will have to see whether this kind of technical leadership converts into swift mass-market adoption or not.
One of the first reactions to Jonathan Schwartz's essay in February's JDJ comes from Salil Deshpande, CEO of The Middleware Company, which runs the enterprise software community sites TheServerSide.com, and the recently launched TheServerSide.NET.
"Jonathan Schwartz has said some silly things over the years, but this one might take the cake," says Deshpande, speaking exclusively to JDJ News Desk.
"Saying that middleware is history is like saying our nation's highways, railways, and waterways are history. They are boring when working well, maybe, but not history."
"On the contrary, middleware is the future. It is constantly evolving, adapting, and innovating; and there are standards, because computing will never be a one stop shopping experience. Sun understands this, I think they just need to work on their message. If they don't refocus on what they do well, Sun will be history."
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#14
Nick commented on 18 Feb 2004
Well, guy just wanted to say "Let''s call it "services" istead of "middleware". That''s all. Just didn''t like the word.
#13
TV commented on 10 Feb 2004
Interesting . . . What about airways ?
Important to understand is the meaning of J2EE - integration. Under this, many enterprise resources may be integrated, provided there is the server. Then if the server works well, and costs less, why should anybody object ? But that, only time can tell, as we will definitely find out which "middleware" people are buying more of !
#12
Frederick P Mikkelsen commented on 10 Feb 2004
Middleware is a concept to integrate heretofore unintegrated technologies more easily. As long as there are technologies to integrate, and projects to be done more quickly, middleware is the key.
But just as 3G programming languages obfuscated machine code, middleware solutions will become more sophisticated to abstracting out the nitty technology. There was a time that making ODBC drivers was a profitable business plan. Later, message queue software sold. Now, realtime integration is the presumption however operational middleware is more valuable. How do I execute better business quicker?
Middleware has migrated in 15 years from API packages to business solution generators. Only if business stops having competitive time pressues will middleware cease to exist.
#11
Randy Schnier commented on 10 Feb 2004
What do companies do when they realize they''ve lost the battle as defined by the current market? Try to redefine the market.
With crap like this comming from Sun, it is the duty of all of us Java supporters to stand behind the technology. If it were left up to Sun alone, .NET would surely win. IBM, please take the wheel.
#9
Joe commented on 10 Feb 2004
I get sooo tired of these silly things coming out of Sun. It seem it is only a direct marketing attck at IBM. It reflects that Sun has lost it''s focus, and can''t seem to find it. Sun may well end up being history...
...please IBM, buy out Sun and save java for us all.
#8
John Walker commented on 10 Feb 2004
Middleware is very much alive and well and is instrumental in business today. Packaged solutions have been very successful and have a foothold, but the number of custom solutions to tie disparate systems together is beyond calculation. Applications developers are looking to web services for the next generation of applications, we all pretty much agree on that point, but the phrase ''middleware is dead'' is as premature as the rantings of ''the mainframe is dead'' that started many, many years ago.
#7
John Walker commented on 10 Feb 2004
Middleware is very much alive and well and is instrumental in business today. Packaged solutions have been very successful and have a foothold, but the number of custom solutions to tie disparate systems together is beyond calculation. Applications developers are looking to web services for the next generation of applications, we all pretty much agree on that point, but the phrase ''middleware is dead'' is as premature as the rantings of ''the mainframe is dead'' that started many, many years ago.
Hey, at least this guy did not paste his mug shot all over the article.... He is obviously not seeking the publicity that the "czar" (hardy har har) from Sun did.
#5
bobR commented on 10 Feb 2004
Am I correct in thinking that a J2EE Application Server is essentially middleware? Is SUN saying J2EE is ...
Sounds to me like Sun''s marketing department doesn''t know diamonds from dishwater. Sun has had essentially zero sales performance in the software department for years--these guys can''t even figure out how to market Java effectively. Sounds like Sun has reached the denial stage of terminal illness--and is declaring everyone else to be dead, too, just so they''re not the only ones.
#3
james commented on 10 Feb 2004
It''s just which reference point you''re talking about here. To A, B is death! and to B, A is death!
Technology had evolved so fast that new term/jargons/piece of software tempt to confuse user. In my opinion, no matter what, "Middleware has always been a software that earned lots of companies great fortune, AND will continue to do so!"
#2
ashishK commented on 9 Feb 2004
yes but which statement? that''s it''s "dead" or that it''s "alive and well" ;-)
#1
en commented on 6 Feb 2004
hehe, it''s an expression of marketing instead of technology.
TV wrote: Interesting . . . What about airways ?
Important to understand is the meaning of J2EE - integration. Under this, many enterprise resources may be integrated, provided there is the server. Then if the server works well, and costs less, why should anybody object ? But that, only time can tell, as we will definitely find out which "middleware" people are buying more of !
Frederick P Mikkelsen wrote: Middleware is a concept to integrate heretofore unintegrated technologies more easily. As long as there are technologies to integrate, and projects to be done more quickly, middleware is the key.
But just as 3G programming languages obfuscated machine code, middleware solutions will become more sophisticated to abstracting out the nitty technology. There was a time that making ODBC drivers was a profitable business plan. Later, message queue software sold. Now, realtime integration is the presumption however operational middleware is more valuable. How do I execute better business quicker?
Middleware has migrated in 15 years from API packages to business solution generators. Only if business stops having competitive time pressues will middleware cease to exist.
Darren Pye wrote: Agree @ Joe
With crap like this comming from Sun, it is the duty of all of us Java supporters to stand behind the technology. If it were left up to Sun alone, .NET would surely win. IBM, please take the wheel.
Joe wrote: I get sooo tired of these silly things coming out of Sun. It seem it is only a direct marketing attck at IBM. It reflects that Sun has lost it''s focus, and can''t seem to find it. Sun may well end up being history...
...please IBM, buy out Sun and save java for us all.
John Walker wrote: Middleware is very much alive and well and is instrumental in business today. Packaged solutions have been very successful and have a foothold, but the number of custom solutions to tie disparate systems together is beyond calculation. Applications developers are looking to web services for the next generation of applications, we all pretty much agree on that point, but the phrase ''middleware is dead'' is as premature as the rantings of ''the mainframe is dead'' that started many, many years ago.
John Walker wrote: Middleware is very much alive and well and is instrumental in business today. Packaged solutions have been very successful and have a foothold, but the number of custom solutions to tie disparate systems together is beyond calculation. Applications developers are looking to web services for the next generation of applications, we all pretty much agree on that point, but the phrase ''middleware is dead'' is as premature as the rantings of ''the mainframe is dead'' that started many, many years ago.
Paul Barns wrote: Hey, at least this guy did not paste his mug shot all over the article.... He is obviously not seeking the publicity that the "czar" (hardy har har) from Sun did.
Brook Monroe wrote: Sounds to me like Sun''s marketing department doesn''t know diamonds from dishwater. Sun has had essentially zero sales performance in the software department for years--these guys can''t even figure out how to market Java effectively. Sounds like Sun has reached the denial stage of terminal illness--and is declaring everyone else to be dead, too, just so they''re not the only ones.
james wrote: It''s just which reference point you''re talking about here. To A, B is death! and to B, A is death!
Technology had evolved so fast that new term/jargons/piece of software tempt to confuse user. In my opinion, no matter what, "Middleware has always been a software that earned lots of companies great fortune, AND will continue to do so!"
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