Richard Davies wrote: The UK has a good crop of technology pioneers in cloud computing - for example ElasticHosts, FlexiScale, Flexiant, OnApp - and also some strong government initiatives such as G-Cloud.
We will have to see whether this kind of technical leadership converts into swift mass-market adoption or not.
Gmail or Yahoo! Mail? Now that Yahoo! Mail has matched the Gmail offer of 1GB storage to its free e-mail customers, Google is doing the obvious thing and pulling ahead again, reopening "the one-gig gap" between its Gmail service and all-comers.
A year after the launch of Gmail in beta on April 1 of last year, Gmail users will now be able to store e-mail and attachments up to 2GB per account.
"Our goal is to make sure storage is no longer an issue for web mail users," said Marissa Mayer, Google's director of consumer web products - a clear indication that even 2GB is by no means as high as Google is prepared to go to keep itself in the lead over all-comers.
About Jeremy Geelan Jeremy Geelan is President & COO of Cloud Expo, Inc. and Conference Chair of the worldwide Cloud Expo series. He appears regularly at conferences and trade shows, speaking to technology audiences both in North America and overseas. He is executive producer and presenter of Cloud Expo's "Power Panels" on SYS-CON.TV.
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Harshad commented on 14 Apr 2005
All this storage talk is making my head go spinning..... Sure, gmail offers 2GB at the moment ( my account at gmail now has 2100MB i.e. 2.1 GB of free space), but as rightly said by some one its all messy.... I have used many free GB email providers, but Yahoo, i feel, rules the competition . True enough, gmail is still a beta version provider, but generally and overall, i wd go in for a yahoo ( it opens on any browser version - unlike gmail which makes a lot of fuss in this regard). And who needs 2GB of space anyways .. 1GB is more than enough...
#27
Erwin Morales commented on 4 Apr 2005
welcome infinite+1 bytes in my gmail inbox, hotmail survives only for the msn messenger service, if it's true the messenger google's service byebye msn & hotmail.
AH MAN!! OH NO!!! i finaly got my display to read your using 2% of your 1gig limit now it says your using 0% again :(( life is rough I need more friends...
#25
peterrk commented on 4 Apr 2005
Does it really matter? There are so many hoops to jump through tho get a Gmail account, who would bother? All they keep doing is keeping their name in the news without really offering anything to the vast majority of internet users. Offering 2GB to a handful of users is hardly a big deal. I'll get more excited when Gmail finally gets real.
#24
pjh commented on 4 Apr 2005
To make labels more like folders, all you have to do is quickly apply a label, then hit the 'archive' button. You then only see the message from within the view of that label (like with a folder), and you still get the functionality provided by labels.
I use labels and stars all the time!
The difference between labels and folders is that with folders you can only put the message into one folder (unless you make a copy of the message), whereas with labels, you can apply multiple labels to the same message.
I'm surprised that gmail is slow for you - for most people it is lightning fast! Far faster than Hotmail... True, it takes a while to load in the first place, but when you get into it everything is (almost) instant!
#23
freaking idiot commented on 4 Apr 2005
what's the difference between labels and folders apart from the fact that the labelled messages can still be retrieved from anywhere?
#22
bigmomma commented on 3 Apr 2005
Labels are much much better than folders - for example, you can put multiple labels on a conversation. But really really really ......the key is to search for your email rather than (folder--sort--scan!)....I shudder to imagine what it would be to go back to yahoo etc.
Stars are pretty useful for example, to mark emails you have read, want to reply but not replied.
#21
Googler commented on 3 Apr 2005
Gmail is okay. Sure the space is nice, but their lack of folders for organization when you have a lot email is a real pain. Instead you have to archive messages and then search for them later. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it, google it. But still, my kingdom for customizable folders!
Does anyone really use the Starred or Labels features? Bah, too much extra work! Labels are the closest thing to having folders, but all the messages are still displayed in a single area, forcing you to search for messages unnecessarily.
Gmail is also slow for some reason. Maybe due to the indexing??
My tip, use Gmail for archiving. Yahoo is still the best for day to day email. Hotmail is just okay, they sorta ruined it when they changed the interface and made you perform an extra click to get your messages. It used to be so much better.
#20
queZZtion commented on 3 Apr 2005
What's Google doing withthe social-networking site Orkut that it bought?
#19
Giants vs giants commented on 3 Apr 2005
Seems the storage fight between Yahoo, Google and Microsoft's MSN is never going to end.
#18
nteeretsing commented on 3 Apr 2005
||| Are they just using massive NAS/SAN? Are the messages themselves stored randomly across many systems with each user just having a common index of messages? |||
Great questions. Hopefully Google will monitor this thread and reply?
#17
Google Wins commented on 2 Apr 2005
MSN Hotmail is dead now surely.
#16
2gigYes commented on 2 Apr 2005
Good for Google! (Good for us all.)
#15
David commented on 1 Apr 2005
What's the technical architecture used that allows so many users to access lots of front end web servers and reach a common set of backends where the email messages are stored? Does Google at least keep a given user's messages all in one location, or does it have some sort of distributed email message storage system for a given user?
Are they just using massive NAS/SAN? Are the messages themselves stored randomly across many systems with each user just having a common index of messages?
#14
Easy2RememberNick commented on 1 Apr 2005
I already have a G mail account. If it isn't Beta soon, will I have to fight over my username again?
Harshad wrote: All this storage talk is making my head go spinning..... Sure, gmail offers 2GB at the moment ( my account at gmail now has 2100MB i.e. 2.1 GB of free space), but as rightly said by some one its all messy.... I have used many free GB email providers, but Yahoo, i feel, rules the competition . True enough, gmail is still a beta version provider, but generally and overall, i wd go in for a yahoo ( it opens on any browser version - unlike gmail which makes a lot of fuss in this regard). And who needs 2GB of space anyways .. 1GB is more than enough...
Erwin Morales wrote: welcome infinite+1 bytes in my gmail inbox, hotmail survives only for the msn messenger service, if it's true the messenger google's service byebye msn & hotmail.
James FInstrom wrote: AH MAN!! OH NO!!! i finaly got my display to read your using 2% of your 1gig limit now it says your using 0% again :(( life is rough I need more friends...
peterrk wrote: Does it really matter? There are so many hoops to jump through tho get a Gmail account, who would bother? All they keep doing is keeping their name in the news without really offering anything to the vast majority of internet users. Offering 2GB to a handful of users is hardly a big deal. I'll get more excited when Gmail finally gets real.
pjh wrote: To make labels more like folders, all you have to do is quickly apply a label, then hit the 'archive' button. You then only see the message from within the view of that label (like with a folder), and you still get the functionality provided by labels.
I use labels and stars all the time!
The difference between labels and folders is that with folders you can only put the message into one folder (unless you make a copy of the message), whereas with labels, you can apply multiple labels to the same message.
I'm surprised that gmail is slow for you - for most people it is lightning fast! Far faster than Hotmail... True, it takes a while to load in the first place, but when you get into it everything is (almost) instant!
freaking idiot wrote: what's the difference between labels and folders apart from the fact that the labelled messages can still be retrieved from anywhere?
bigmomma wrote: Labels are much much better than folders - for example, you can put multiple labels on a conversation. But really really really ......the key is to search for your email rather than (folder--sort--scan!)....I shudder to imagine what it would be to go back to yahoo etc.
Stars are pretty useful for example, to mark emails you have read, want to reply but not replied.
Googler wrote: Gmail is okay. Sure the space is nice, but their lack of folders for organization when you have a lot email is a real pain. Instead you have to archive messages and then search for them later. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it, google it. But still, my kingdom for customizable folders!
Does anyone really use the Starred or Labels features? Bah, too much extra work! Labels are the closest thing to having folders, but all the messages are still displayed in a single area, forcing you to search for messages unnecessarily.
Gmail is also slow for some reason. Maybe due to the indexing??
My tip, use Gmail for archiving. Yahoo is still the best for day to day email. Hotmail is just okay, they sorta ruined it when they changed the interface and made you perform an extra click to get your messages. It used to be so much better.
nteeretsing wrote: ||| Are they just using massive NAS/SAN? Are the messages themselves stored randomly across many systems with each user just having a common index of messages? |||
Great questions. Hopefully Google will monitor this thread and reply?
David wrote: What's the technical architecture used that allows so many users to access lots of front end web servers and reach a common set of backends where the email messages are stored? Does Google at least keep a given user's messages all in one location, or does it have some sort of distributed email message storage system for a given user?
Are they just using massive NAS/SAN? Are the messages themselves stored randomly across many systems with each user just having a common index of messages?
gmail.c wrote: &&& TomViolin commented on 1 April 2005:
There's a dynamically updating counter on the Gmail login page. Although the story on the login page, as a whole, is an April Fool's joke, the actual quotas are following the counter, gradually increasing....! &&&
Ha - Very cool! Hre's the login page (http://mail.google.com) - currently it reads: "1344.576892 megabytes of storage (and counting) for every user."
TomViolin wrote: There's a dynamically updating counter on the Gmail login page. Although the story on the login page, as a whole, is an April Fool's joke, the actual quotas are following the counter, gradually increasing....!
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A year after the launch of Gmail in beta on April 1 of last year, Gmail users will now be able to store e-mail and attachments up to 2GB per account.
Swisscom, the Swiss telecom, is going into the cloud business.
Its subsidiary Swisscom IT Services AG has signed up with Red Hat as a Certified Cloud Provider and launched a public cloud Infrastructure-as-a-Service (IaaS) cloud targeting enterprise-class customers primarily in ...
Apache Deltacloud, the Red Hat-contributed ReSTful API that abstracts differences between clouds so services on any cloud can be managed – provided of course there’s a driver – has graduated from the Apache Foundation’s incubator and is now a full-fledged Top-Level Project (TLP)....
In a surprise move on Tuesday, January 10, Oracle wheeled out its Big Data Appliance.
That’s the one it said in October would be ready sometime in the first half. Only nobody believed it meant early in the first half. Heck, it’s not even clear anybody thought Oracle could make ...
Rackspace Hosting, the service leader in cloud computing, on Thursday announced its acquisition of SharePoint911, an industry leader in SharePoint consulting, training, and "JumpStart" services within SharePoint. The unification of both companies provides capabilities to deliver ...
CloudLinux, Inc., on Thursday released CafeFS 3, a virtualized file system for shared hosters that cages each customer within its own virtualized file system.
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